[00:00:05] Speaker A: Welcome to the short term show. The show about short term rentals and long term wealth with real property owners hosting real properties who are crushing it in the vacation and short term rental space.
And here's your host, Avery Carle.
[00:00:28] Speaker B: Hey, y' all. Welcome back to another episode of the short term show. Today we have some really cool investors, Melissa and Chris Jones. How's it going, guys?
[00:00:37] Speaker C: Great. How are you doing?
[00:00:40] Speaker B: Awesome. Can't wait to share your story with our audience.
So can you start out by just telling us a little bit about what, you know, what got you into real estate investing and just a little bit about yourselves?
[00:00:52] Speaker C: Sure, yeah. So we actually didn't have, you know, pure intentions of going into investing. We actually just had this desire to own a second home.
So we wanted to buy the cheapest thing that we could possibly afford. So we first started off in Galveston, Texas.
We literally found a townhome there that we could redo every. Well, actually, we didn't plan on redoing everything. We just planned on buying it, doing a few changes, and then throwing it on the market and hopefully having some extra income to help us make those mortgage payments. So I think that's kind of a lot of people's take is wanting some, you know, assistance on getting that second home started. So that was our first.
Our first jump in. And then once we realized, oh my gosh, you can actually cash flow on this, then the wheels started turning and so then we started taking off. But yeah, so that's kind of where we, our families both did long term investing.
So both of us knew that that wasn't really something we were super interested in. So when we got into this and we figured out we could combine our love of people and travel and real estate, it seemed like the perfect combo for us and. Yeah.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Awesome. So tell me a little bit about what you bought in Galveston or Crystal beach or somewhere right in there. Right?
[00:02:12] Speaker D: Yeah. So it was a little townhome. It's got a little community of townhomes.
This third row from the beach.
I think we got it for about 260k. This is also in 2020.
So it was around Covid was going like right after Covid started.
So, yeah, you know, bought that as a little two bedroom, two bath.
[00:02:33] Speaker C: We actually bought it thinking we were so naive and not knowing what we were doing. So we bought this thing and we thought it was turnkey. Oh, gosh. So we went down there one weekend for Thanksgiving or one week. We were going to spend like the entire week of Thanksgiving painting it and putting it on the market?
Let's just say we didn't put it on the market till six months. Six months later.
So you get in there and we, we bought it furnished, thinking, oh this is great. We don't have to like spend any money. We can just like turn it. And then we get there and we realize like nothing in there was like suitable. Like things were broken, damaged. It was in really bad condition.
So we found out. We actually just got ourselves another project because we had to remove all those furnishings.
And then we found like, we had to pa.
Funny thing, we like moved a piece of furniture in the living room and found a fireplace.
[00:03:26] Speaker D: Oh, didn't even find it.
[00:03:29] Speaker C: Yeah, it's funny, we were like major fond. So we found a fireplace that no longer. It didn't work. So they had just like covered it up and basically it was. And it was actually potentially very picturesque. So we, we like gutted it and put was like a fireplace unit thing inside of it and made it, you know, where the ambiance were.
So we, we couldn't use the.
[00:03:55] Speaker D: The or whatever Community captain a long time ago.
[00:03:59] Speaker C: But yeah, it was crazy fun to find a fireplace you didn't know existed.
So that was fun.
[00:04:04] Speaker D: We couldn't get the couch downstairs, so we had to like get ropes and pull it off the third floor balcony all the way down to the ground. But we were kind of the under the impression like, well, if it just falls and breaks, we were getting rid of it anyways.
[00:04:18] Speaker C: So did. It definitely wasn't turnkey.
We had the kids down there watching as, you know, make sure nobody went underneath it as we fully levied it down. You know, it was all the things. We definitely had a big learning curve. And then in the middle of it, we also had the big Covid freeze that we had in Texas along the coast that year. Totally unexpected.
[00:04:40] Speaker D: Yeah, we were just about to go live in spring break and it pushed us back another couple of months because it was. It just shattered all the pipes inside because it was a.
Yeah, it was an ordeal.
[00:04:52] Speaker C: We got a lot of education really quick.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: So. So what year was this that you bought it?
[00:04:58] Speaker D: 2020.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: 2020. Okay, so you bought it in 2020 and is this in Galveston or.
[00:05:05] Speaker C: It was in Galveston. Yeah, it was out kind of on West Beach.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: Okay, awesome. And so you bought this just to have like a.
A vacation home for yourself, but like to also pay the mortgage or did you buy this purely for cash flow?
[00:05:21] Speaker C: No, we didn't even really truly know that people could cash flow on short term rentals at that point we were just doing it because we had this goal of like someday owning a second home. And when we got the idea of like, hey, if we could like rent it out some and help pay the mortgage, then we can do this earlier while our kids are still at home and we can still enjoy it.
And so that's why, you know, we first did it was like, hey, we, we love to travel and this sounds really cool. So if we can offset our payments, I think we can actually afford this. So. And then once we started and we realized, oh my goodness, like, you can, you can actually cash flow on these kind of things, then.
Yeah, then Chris started listening to you guys and I think he consumed like every podcast you ever made. And.
Yeah, and then we just dove right in. Like, we were just like head first because we really, we were sold on it at that point. We were like, this is the way to go.
[00:06:15] Speaker D: Yeah.
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[00:06:53] Speaker B: All right, so let's, I want to hear a little bit more about this about like the numbers of this property. So what'd you pay for it? How'd you finance it? What are the, what's the income look like?
[00:07:04] Speaker D: Yeah, so it was, I think around 260 is what we paid for.
We, we ended up having to use a HELOC to, to our current house. Our current house was paid off. So use a little bit of money from that in order to finance it, which a lot of people say that's not a good idea. But it was kind of our only option. We just didn't have any other, you know, cash to do that, so. And it wasn't a ton of money out of our, our current home that it was, you know, a portion.
So, yeah, he liked to get financed, get it going, helped us with the remodel, obviously, and then, you know, and that actually once we started cash flowing and, you know, doing well with that, that's when we started looking into the potential of buying, you know, other, other properties.
So we can tell you about that.
[00:07:46] Speaker B: Yeah, let's hear about them. I want to hear about all of them.
[00:07:49] Speaker D: Yeah. So our next venture was into Blue Ridge. Blue Ridge, Georgia.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:07:56] Speaker C: Because that makes sense for someone in Texas to want to invest in Blue Ridge, right?
[00:08:00] Speaker B: Hey, I'll invest anywhere, so I get it.
Yeah, tell me about it.
[00:08:04] Speaker D: Yeah. So that was a. It was a good little property. Do you call it an A frame?
[00:08:09] Speaker C: It was sort of like an old style a frame that had like the bunk room up at top where you know, the bunks were built in on the sides of it. And super cute design right up you could. Great river view.
[00:08:21] Speaker D: Yeah, river.
[00:08:24] Speaker C: Both being from west Texas where there's like no water or trees. We were sold on it. So we were like, we want to buy that.
[00:08:32] Speaker D: So a neat little fireplace or fire pit outside.
Had a screen in porch which we added an outdoor movie screen on.
Had a couple arcades, had some built in bungs. It was a really nice, cute, very well designed place.
Made good use of space, hot tub, views of the mountains. It was a. It was a nice little place. We enjoyed it. We kept that for about a year and a half and then about that time we were looking to get into like another property, but had decided to sell our, our Galveston place and use that money to buy our first property in Broken Boat. A little two bedroom and that one. We've been performing phenomenal and ever since. By that time we'd already learned a ton. You know, just all the podcasts, all the networking conferences, training. We've just been doing so much that we, we were upping our game essentially.
[00:09:20] Speaker C: And we also bought a new cabin this time because we did not want another project.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: I hear that.
[00:09:28] Speaker D: Yeah, it's. It was a great croppy. We designed it around like an outdoor experience. We really wanted to pull people outside because it was too small for the inside, so we didn't have a whole lot of amenities we could do inside. So we tried to really draw people outside because Broken Boat's a little more nature based. So.
So yeah, we. We put like an outdoor movie out there. Fire pit, hot tub, cornhole, putting green. We put a giant hammock that'll hold like six adults, you know, because we call it hammock attaway.
We had a playset, string lights.
[00:10:00] Speaker C: We have two kids. So we were thinking like, what would our kids want if they were going somewhere? And like when a mom's looking at booking a place, what is the things that would draw her in that wouldn't. She could picture her kids playing on and enjoying while she's chilling and having a moment. So. And if we thought of it, we added it.
[00:10:18] Speaker D: Yeah. First year we did like 84k gross which was well above the 90th percentile for revenue for two bedrooms.
So being successful with that same time, we also bought our second or sorry, it was our third property which is in Orange beach. And we used Jonathan Lazzarino.
[00:10:39] Speaker C: Yeah. So that was our jump into the short term shop.
We were so excited to actually become a part of it because we were like, you know, we, we learned and heard it so much so we just felt like we were finally like we were in.
So we're super excited.
And Jonathan became like a good friend too.
[00:10:56] Speaker D: So.
[00:10:57] Speaker C: Yeah, that was a really, I don't know, that was a big moment for us.
[00:11:02] Speaker B: Well, tell me, let's hear about the Orange beach ones.
[00:11:05] Speaker D: Yeah. So four bedroom has like a coastal theme design.
It already had some like some bikes and beach gear, but we kind of took it to a whole nother level. We, we added three arcades, an indoor movie screen, foosball table, ping pong table, fire pit back.
[00:11:26] Speaker C: And this time we bought one that was professionally decorated. So see we're, we're gravitating upwards.
We went from redoing completely to buying new and having to furnish to professionally decorated.
[00:11:40] Speaker D: And this beach house isn't on the beach. So we're competing with a lot of people that are on the beach. So we have to have something that's going to stand out.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: Right.
[00:11:48] Speaker D: So since we don't have the beach views, we don't have, we're not really like a five minute walk. We had to have other stuff that drew people there. Now our community has a pool. We're right there on the state park.
So there's a lot of draw to that. But it's still. How do you get people off the beach to want to book our place instead? So that's where all the amenities came in.
And that property has been performing just a little over 100k this year. We're probably on track for probably getting to 110k.
[00:12:16] Speaker B: Okay, and so what did you pay for that one and when, when did you buy that?
[00:12:21] Speaker D: That one was like 840. It's a four bedroom.
It's about 2500, 3000 square feet. I got that in March of 2022 and then we decided to sell Blue Ridge around that time.
So at that point we then bought our second property in September of 2023. There's an A frame in Broken Bow.
[00:12:45] Speaker C: And I love A frames. That was totally like I wanted an A frame. So he was checking the box.
[00:12:51] Speaker D: Yeah. In the middle of all this, we Decided to start coast and because between our success with our own properties, everything we learned, just decided to start essentially offering this service to, hey, we're doing successful with our properties. Let's do this the same thing for. For other owners. That was March 2023 was our first client.
[00:13:11] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: Okay, so we got. We first we did Galveston, then Broken Bow, then go. No, sorry. Galveston and Blue Ridge, then Orange beach, then Broken Bow. So you got four total?
[00:13:22] Speaker D: Yeah, we still sold the Galveston one, and then we eventually sold the Blue Ridge one. So right now we're just at three. The Orange beach and then two in.
[00:13:29] Speaker B: Broken Two and Broken Bow. Okay. So I would love to hear about how Broken Bow is going, because I know that's one that has been particularly hard by the real estate market. There's a lot of inventory right now, and I've always loved that the properties, like the level of luxury in Broken Bow is kind of shocking. So, like, an average cabin in Broken Bow is like a luxury cabin in the Smokies.
[00:13:56] Speaker D: It's very true. And you can't just have a luxury cabin in Broken Boat and be successful. You have to be stand up beyond that now. You don't have to be crazy themed, like Disney World type area, like Kissing Me and stuff like that. You don't have to go that. That extre. But you just can't have a nice luxury cabin and be exceptional. You have to do more.
[00:14:15] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And we're actually doing quite well there.
We actually. So we. So we now own the three properties and then we co host around 25 and several of them. I think there's like 16 or 18 in Broken Bow that we co host for now. So we kind of got a range between one bedrooms all the way up to five bedrooms. So.
So we kind of got a variety and stuff. But yeah, yeah, we actually love Broken Bow. It's a phenomenal market for us, I think, with any market out there, whether it be this, because we actually co host in the Smokies. So just so you know, like, our co hosting is in Broken Bow, Orange beach and Gulf Shores and the Smokies.
So those are our three markets that we're in. And it's funny because you mentioned the Smokies. We find that Broken Bow and the Smokies are actually very similar in numbers and things.
[00:15:05] Speaker D: Yeah. With our co hosting. Yeah, it's been. It's been really great, really successful as far as, like the market, Blue Ridge or McLaren. Broken boat.
Yeah, there's a lot of people that are struggling either between the Saturation and other stuff. But if you have a good manager, you have the right design, the right decor, the right amenities, you can definitely stand out. It's kind of a package deal. You can't just, like, have just one thing and. And make it work unless you're just really good at that one thing. But, you know, most people kind of have to have a lot going for it, but, yeah, we've been very successful with all that. Most of our properties are performing above the 70th percentile for revenue for their. Their bedroom size, and then several performing above the 90th percentile. So we've kind of got, like, a pretty good knack for.
For doing what we're doing with our own properties with the owners.
You know, not every owner takes our bus, so sometimes they don't. They have just different goals, you know, so, you know, maximizing revenue may not be their. Their ultimate goal, but so. But yeah, we're. We've been pretty successful with that. It's been good. The market is, like. It's competitive, and a lot of the properties we take on from other property managers were.
We're outperforming those other property managers, you know, by quite a bit of a margin. But we're also more of a small boutique company, and we can. We can do a lot of the strategies the bigger companies can't do.
So.
[00:16:24] Speaker C: Yeah, well, we definitely find that it takes more to produce the same results that you got in 2020, 2021. You know, it's. You know, you can't do the same thing that you did then and get the same results, but we're actually outperforming year after year. So our 2024 numbers outperform 23 or 23, 22. Like, every year, we've been able to up our game. So we feel that that's because we're continually learning and improving and refining what we're doing and then just giving it our all, you know, just really putting everything in.
[00:16:58] Speaker D: Yeah, as far as, like, trapper drivers, like, Broken Bow is not like the Smokies in that regard. There's a lot of tourist stuff. Great Smoky Mountains. There's a lot of things. There's Dollywood. There's a lot of things that draw the Smoky Mountains. But Brooklyn, but doesn't have anything like that. It is very much in the country.
It's. It's got some nature stuff, for sure. It's got the lake. You can do some hiking, you know, fishing. There's. There's definitely some good nature stuff, ATV riding, but it's it's just, it's just a totally different market. It's just nowhere near as developed. But I think what you have is you have much a much stronger.
The DFW area is growing so fast. And if the closest place for people to kind of get to the mountains and hilly area is broken, you can go further east and further northeast and you'll hit, you know, Arkansas and some other pretty areas as well, which are even prettier than broken though. But it's a five, six, seven hour drive. Most people don't want to drive that far. They want to go 2, 3, 4 hours. So it's not a weekend getaway. So it's kind of like the first destination for everyone. Oklahoma and south, southwest, all going northeast to that pretty area. And so I think that's all that. All that is just driving a lot of traffic. I also think one traffic driver is that some people don't think about is like, it's almost like, like you could try to pick the lake, you could try to pick the nature, you could try to pick some things and say there's a traffic driver, drive the state park.
But there's also just the fact, like there's just people who just want to get out of town and they just.
[00:18:20] Speaker C: Want to relax, get away from the.
[00:18:22] Speaker D: City, get to a cabin, chill out and yeah, get away from the city. That in and of itself is almost like its own traffic driver. It's almost like a closet traffic driver, a hidden traffic driver that people don't think about, don't talk about. But that's where people are going. They're just getting out of town to just chill and relax. Because. Because I wouldn't say the lake is a major traffic driver. It is a beautiful lake, don't get me wrong. But it's. There's plenty of lakes in dfw, so you don't have to go that far north just to get to a lake state park. You know, I mean, it's obviously really pretty and some stuff around there, but if you're not really staying at the state park, it's not necessarily the main traffic driver per se.
So there's. Yeah, there's not a strong set of traffic drivers for that, but I think there's a really strong like hidden closet traffic driver that drives a lot of people who just want to get out of town.
[00:19:07] Speaker C: We have a lot of people go book our places in broken boat and never really want to leave the cabin. Like there's a really large number of people who go and make it more Like a staycation which you know, they love like the properties that we've done because it's, we try to do them like as like a mini resort where you know, it's entertaining the kids. You know, the kitchens are very equipped, you know, like all the things that they would need. So you know, they run by the grocery store on their way in and they just go and they just chill.
So it's actually, you know, we have more people who go and just stay there and don't leave than anywhere else.
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[00:21:04] Speaker B: That's cool because yeah, I think that there's a lot of markets like that. I think Blue Ridge is also kind of like that where it's really just like a let's get out in the woods from the big city type market. So I have a question about your, your co hosting. So I think there's a lot of people out there listening who probably would like to co host a little bit for other people to generate some cash flow, generate some experience so that they can go buy more properties. So when you guys find clients who want like how do you find a client who wants co hosting help?
[00:21:35] Speaker C: Well, we've actually been very fortunate because it's. Our business has really grown by word of mouth. So our first co hosting was actually someone asking us if we would co host for them because they saw how well we were managing our property and noticed that every time they went by our cabin someone was there whereas other cabins were vacant. So fortunately we actually got started on it by word of mouth and that's really like how it's grown is like people who we currently manage for will refer us to other people. But another way is like we've connected with some great realtors who when they know an investor who's wanting to purchase a property and doesn't you know, don't want to sell, has no interest in like self managing then they can refer them to us as well.
But we haven't actually like truly like marketed our services per se because it has grown continuously through you know, just like we have a couple of owners who have multiple properties with us and then yeah, just like kind of word of mouth. So I feel like just like doing what you're doing and doing it well and then just kind of like, and really providing great service to your guest. We also have had guests who have referred us to other people because they'll reach out and just ask us kind of, you know, when they're staying there. Like, like this is a really awesome property and they start you know, asking us questions or whatever. And I mean, you know as well as like we do that it's really fun to talk about this kind of thing because we love it. And so it's like someone gets us on short term rentals and we're not going to shut up until they're tired of listening. So, so it's really fun for us to share that with the guest or whoever is asking or whatever and we're super willing to help someone get started. So you know, if someone comes to us and ask us something, they're going to get a lot more information than they planned.
Yeah, so I'd say just like the co hosting, like for someone who's wanting to get started though, I think the big thing is like building those relationships, you know, with the guests, with the realtors, with the people in the area being active like on social media and you know, responding to not just the questions that when people are asking like you know, who's a good co host but actually just jumping in there and helping with, with whatever questions someone's asking like what's going on in the area or you know, where do you go for tornado shelters? Like I mean just being out there and helping and then people recognize like hey, those people want to help and they're also co host. You're looking cool.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: So you guys have really like started just with one little investment property for yourself and kind of scaled into like a full business. And I think there's a lot of people out there that really, that this will really resonate with who want to do the same thing, you know, build a side hustle that can eventually become their main hustle. So I think this is your story is, is very inspiring.
So we're to the last three questions of the show that we ask all of our guests and so the first question is, what advice would you give 20 year old Melissa and Chris?
[00:24:34] Speaker C: I would say like, maybe if we were doing it all over again, that instead of focusing so much on maybe even like formal education, that we would maybe look at things more from an entrepreneurial spirit and seeing like, you know, what does that look like and how can I prepare myself and grow so that, so that I can be more business minded and just have those skills and maybe even some less formal education to be able to, to do that. Like, I felt like for us, we both jumped right into college, we both, you know, declared a major that we don't even use now. You know, that sort of thing, which is definitely the path for some people, you know, it's, it's great. But for other people who really have that entrepreneurial spirit, it's like I feel like people need to be encouraged in that.
So I definitely wish that someone would have been encouraging more that instead of that, this is the path you really need to go on because it's the way to success.
So for me, I think that I would kind of want to be encouraged more to be entrepreneurial.
[00:25:41] Speaker B: Love that. All right, now, second question, kind of similar to that, but different. What advice would you give a new short term rental investor who's looking to get started today?
[00:25:50] Speaker D: I would say, you know, just, you know, educate yourself, like figure out like you're learning, like, are you like an introvert or extrovert? Like, and. Because that'll kind of send your path. Because if you're more of an extrovert, you'll definitely be able to get into conferences and into Facebook groups and really, really networking. Right?
You know, meetups and stuff like that. But if you're more of an introvert, that's a little bit of a challenge, right? You don't, you don't want to kind of get out of your shell.
So you may be trying to pursue more of the path of like training or just more like just you're in the Facebook groups, but you're more just kind of listening.
You know, I would just try to figure out like what you are as a person, how you learn, how you, how you want to get better at something and then start educating yourself in those ways. For me, I'm much more of a do it yourselfer kind of an introvert. So I, I'd sit there and I just consumed every podcast I could look at every YouTube video, looking at data and analyzing it, just all the anti networking things. My wife is more networking based, so I'm kind of always having to lean on her for that. But I've had to get a little bit out of my shell and, you know, go to some conferences, go to some meetups, stuff like that. I'm going to a co hosting retreat with Bill Faith's inner circle here pretty soon. I'm pretty excited about that. But it's still, it's. It's a little bit of a leap for me because it's just not me.
[00:27:06] Speaker C: I have to register him because we're both, we. We kind of bounce on each other. So I feel like if someone's doing it on their own, it's. It's also good to have that support sport, you know, to find someone that can encourage you in that way to. To push you outside of your comfort zone or.
Yeah. So find out who you are.
[00:27:26] Speaker D: For me, like, I would listen to podcasts on the yard, driving down the road. I mean, I. I can't tell you how many hundreds and hundreds of hours of just podcasts and just training that just got from doing that.
[00:27:38] Speaker C: So, yeah, just not more of a. Let's jump in and figure it out.
So.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: Love that too. Okay, last. What is your favorite book that's impacted your mindset?
[00:27:51] Speaker C: So there was a book by Emily P. Freeman called the Next Right Thing. It's actually not a real estate book. It's actually a book about decision making, like decision fatigue and. But I just loved it. I don't know if it was the fact that I read it, like, just at the right time in my life kind of thing, or if it's just a book that would touch anyone else's life.
But for me, like, as a mompreneur, I feel like you're just exhausted with daily decisions and like, figuring out what's next and just even having time for that, just that mental clarity because you're just constantly, you know, responding to what's next.
So for me, that was super helpful and a great book. I've given it to lots of friends because it was just such a great book for me at the time. So I've read lots of real estate books. Love both of yours.
[00:28:38] Speaker B: Oh, thank you.
[00:28:39] Speaker C: But you know, I just say, like, for me, that was just like the right book at the right time, and it just really kind of helped me.
And sometimes when you're kind of like, just overwhelmed, like, seriously, it's just like, okay, let's just do the next right thing. You know, it's. It's not like, let's look at our five year plan or our ten year plan right now, like today is just a let's get to lunch day. Right?
[00:29:01] Speaker B: Great, Great recommendations. And, guys, is there anything before we go?
Uh, and I'll ask for your socials, et cetera, in just a second, but is there anything before we go that you feel like our listeners would benefit from hearing about your story that we haven't gone over?
[00:29:16] Speaker C: Yeah, No, I don't. I just say, like, just do the hard things, like, set yourself apart, keep working hard. Um, you know, if you do what everyone else is doing, you're going to produce the same results. Um, it does take more to set yourself apart in this industry, and I think more and more all the time because people are upping their game. Um, like, be on top of your marketing and be on top of. Of learning and be excited about it. Just, you know, continually, like, learn. I feel like that's something that Chris and I really enjoy is, like, learning and pushing ourselves. And I think that every time that we do, I feel like that everyone in our portfolio is. Is gaining from it.
Our personal family as well. So, yeah, just. Just keep learning, keep pushing, and, yeah, just, like, do the next right thing. Right?
[00:30:03] Speaker D: Yep.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: I totally agree with that.
Last, if our listeners want to follow you on social media, get a hold of you. How can they do that?
[00:30:13] Speaker C: So our company is called Best Vacation Rentals Ever, and that's all our social. It's our website, our social media handles. Everything is just Best Vacation Rentals Ever dot com. So we love that.
[00:30:25] Speaker B: I can't believe that was available.
[00:30:26] Speaker C: I know, right? Yeah, we wanted something that encompassed just, you know, more than one market and one. More than one, like, property type. And so I don't know that. Just, we. That's kind of our goal is, like, to provide, you know, because we. We always say we have the best guest ever, and so we want to provide the best vacation rentals ever.
So, yeah, so that's our business, and we would love for anyone to reach out with any questions if we can encourage anyone. We love helping other people, and that's really what this is all about, so.
[00:30:57] Speaker B: All right, guys. Well, great podcast today. Thank you so much for coming on.
[00:31:01] Speaker C: No, thank you for having us. We loved it.
